With bread? More than a few times. The first time- [She smiles down as the roller pushes into the dough.] -well, I got the dough stuck to the roller and what I made came out shaped a little bit like a frog. [It'd tasted fine but it hadn't risen properly nor has she rolled it well.]

Okay. Now you want to roll it evenly between sides to make sure it's coated in flour and even.

[Justine flips the dough over for him and spins it once to show him what she means.]

Think you got the hang of it? once it's about a half inch thick we can add the sauce and toppings.